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Death For No Reason

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Are sophistic arguments sufficient defence for artists who gain notoriety by ‘documenting’ animals’ deaths? Can the capture and starvation of an animal in exhibit be justified by its oblique commentary on society? What, if anything, is being said under the cover of art? As another show with dubious animal death content opens in San Francisco there’s a different question to ask, one that the artists should ask of themselves.
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A dog is tied up in a gallery, deprived of any food or water and left to die. A photographer cuts and pastes animal heads on other objects digitally, but bizarrely, only after she has killed them. Another artist records video clips of six animals being clubbed to death by sledgehammer.

This is irritating moral territory, one doesn’t want to provide artists and their sponsors publicity for work that’s of no artistic value, but if the exhibitions are ignored there is a tacit acceptance of them. Therefore it’s necessary to identify that the dog was captured, tied up and exhibited to die by Guillermo Habacuc Vargas; that the woman who finds it necessary to kill various animals before photoshopping them is Nathalia Edenmont; and that it’s Adel Abdessemed, as announced in this publication’s news last week, whose exhibit includes videos of animals being clubbed to death.

Dear Clubbing
Adel Abdessemed, Don¹t Trust Me,
2008. Video still. Courtesy of the
artist and David Zwirner Gallery.

The argument has been made that these kinds of exhibit are justified if they challenge our sensibilities or confront our social, political and cultural norms. This is undoubtedly true and is sometimes valid. There is a case for shocking people so that an artist can intercede a new slant on some situation, directly or obliquely. But this can be done, and has been done, very effectively and many times, without having to kill anything anew. There is plenty of death out there to work with.

Mice Fingers
Nathalia Edenmont

What is Edenmont’s point? Her promoters have even extended the usual justifications, speciously claiming that her work advances animal rights (a nonsense calmly and thoroughly debunked by Ellie Maldonado here). It’s seems that Edenmont’s work is ultimately so weak without the sensationalized fact of her slaughtering her subjects that it otherwise doesn’t merit much attention.

Vargas, who is one of six chosen artists for the Central American Biennial in Honduras, defends himself by stating that the dog was unwanted; a nuisance around the makeshift corrugated homes in a shantytown, and that he paid some children to help capture it. So what? Is he saying that because nobody cares about the dog he should be able to prove how little that matters? Whether or not he meant to, Vargas does almost make a point about indifference – the photograph of the emaciated dog in it’s last throes being ignored by gallery goers chatting, sipping and posing around, is disturbing. Point made, but justifiable? Where can you take this line of reasoning? There are plenty of people who no one seems to care about, some people don’t care at all about Sr. Vargas. And again, the art, the rest of the exhibit, the tomatoes and fruits, are of little artistic merit.

 

Dog in gallery
"Natividad"
The dog starved to death by Guillermo "Habacuc" Vargas. Securing
Vargas a space representing Costa Rica in the upcoming Central
American Biennial in Honduras.

Only Abdessemed backs off the killings by saying that they ‘were to happen anyway’ and that he could not have prevented them. Hmmm, are we supposed to swallow the story that some farmer routinely slaughters an peculiarly odd mix of animals by sledgehammer? (Abdessemed ‘chose’ the six - a sheep, a horse, an ox, a pig, a goat, and a doe – from a wider number of animals – is this some sadistic ark?). This is guff.

Think how many blows would it take to kill a horse or an Ox? Even a goat would need several direct smashes on the skull to kill it. Abdessemed doesn’t claim to be exposing any cruelty that might be worthy of art, instead the press release from the San Francisco Art Institute in sickly prose declares that “the multiplicity of stimuli imbue the work with an instantaneous efficiency that circumvents categorization, making typical moral and cultural constraints seem beside the point.”

Beside what point? Not ‘social, cultural, moral, [or] political implications’ the blurb states, no… because “such questions [are] now verging on irrelevance”; oh really?

Better then to quote Morrissey of The Smiths, “It’s death for no reason and death for no reason is murder”.

Looking at this critically and realising what’s wrong here doesn’t require extreme animal rights activism or vegan sensibility. It’s the selfishness.

It’s been called psychotic narcissism but that gives it too grand a gloss for these sorry exhibits by artists who may be nothing more than sadistic fools. It’s selfishness through arrogance and self-glorification. The artists should ask themselves a simple question. Why not put myself in there, in place of the animal? Too shocking? Yes, and just as stupid, but without the shock these artists wouldn’t matter, and that’ is their real fear.

Posted by zaphmann on Mar 06, 2008 06:30 PM

So What

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 07, 2008 06:28 PM
What really matters is were the shows any good? These can be valid expressions of art.

Art my ass

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 22, 2008 01:22 PM
They are NOT valid expressions of art, and these people are cowards who hide behind intellectual platitudes and elitist hypoocrisy. They flatter themselves that their art has any meaning beyond the obvious suffering that they themselves impose on helpless creatures. They are sadists, not artists. I agree - if they REALLY want to make a statement, why not chain themselves to a wall until they die - while watching indifferent dilettantes, who wouldn't know an authentic work of art if it bit them in the rear end, milling about, stuffing their smug faces with food and drink that is just beyond the reach of the one who is chained? Cruelty as culturally sacrosanct? These people ought to be investigated. This is one more indication of the state of Western society; the remarkable sterility of the art produced, the incredibly average quality, the utter mediocrity of certain trendmongers and their so-called "vision" - and, in this case, their savagery. You're right - these people have to resort to these kinds of tactics in order to feel that they matter - they can't produce anything that can stand on anything other than the flimsiest of premises. They are more reminiscent of schoolyard bullies than artists. It's the dustbin of history for their "works" - forgotten, scorned, as they deserve to be.

Tool

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
your such a tool. get off your moral high horse and see what everyone already knows.

Speaking of Hypocrisy

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
Do you get this outraged at the meat and fur industry? If you want to make a real stand, start fighting for the deaths of any animal, not just the ones you find cute.

STFU

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 23, 2008 12:27 PM
 I am a vegan and an animal rights activist I fight for all animal rights how about you actually get a little educated before throwing around accusations

Meat makes the world go round.

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 23, 2008 12:27 PM
Bacon is great. Chicken is good. Beef is swell. My diet consists of virtually no vegetables whatsoever and I could not be more content.

Dogs on the other hand truly are man's best friend. This is wrong on so many levels.

Where are the morals?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 09, 2008 04:29 PM
You are a disgusting excuse for a human with no proper sense of justice.

Wow.....

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
Your a prick...and to top it off why not a bastard too.

Any Good? That's sick.

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
How could you even ask if this is valid art? If it was the most amazing piece in the world, it would not matter because of the simple fact that animals are being cruelly murdered. The fact that you even consider the possibility proves that you deserve to die like that more than the animals. People such as yourself sicken me.

Killing animals for art

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 07, 2008 06:28 PM
What really matters is were the shows any good? These can be valid expressions of art.

Please explain how these can be valid forms of art? What has been learned other then the obvious? Defenseless creatures can, will be and are exploited,tormented, abused and ultimately destroyed for no other reason then someones pathetic attempt to be shocking? Its shocking only in its obvious lack of imagination,skill and intellect. This is not art, this is an attempt to distract people into not noticing the "artists" mediocrity. These people are nothing more then psychopaths who attach the name artist to themselves. What is just as bad is all the annoying diletantes that come to these shows and smugly walk around thinking these things actually have any meaning....

I say anyone who agrees with this type of thing should bravely volunteer themselves as the next subject to be bludgeoned, starved or have their heads attach to a jar. After all they should understand, its art so its ok.... Right?

Fuck that and fuck you...

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
If you think this is ok in the least bit then something is clearly wrong with you. This is not art in any way.I am not insane about animal rights and all, but this is just plain wrong.You don't get away with being so cruel. I think there is a special place in hell for people like the "artist" and people like you who just don't give a shit. The "artist" just sounds like a man who ran out of genuine ideas... When is it ok to abuse something/someone? I mean, what is the world coming to. I hope that the "artist" and all the people who watched die horrible deaths. Extreme? Yes, but the deserve it.

Reply to Anonymous...so what

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 09:52 AM
Were the shows any good.....honestly are you stupid???? i do wonder. Why would they be any good??? I would like to hear your sane answer to that question.

SO WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 16, 2008 01:20 PM
You are an ignorant fuck! What a monster!!

So What????

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
Give me a break...since when does killing, torturing or mutilating a living thing constitute art? It's disgusting and inhumane behavior by a psychotic ego driven monster just interested in a little publicity...same as a serial killer.

Animal cruelty

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
 This arstist must be tortured the same way he did to the animal and put in prision , be raped and suffer all kind of injuries!!!!

what!?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 18, 2008 12:45 AM
art is something creative. killing and death are far from creative, we've been killing since the dawn of man. there's no art in killing an animal in front of people.

may i say

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
i think it would be a very good show if we clubbed you instead! you freak.....

So What?!

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
No, what matters is not whether or not the shows were any good, nor whether they are "valid expressions of art". Neither you, nor anybody else can categorically state what is "valid" or invalid. One man's art is another man's irrelevant crap. No, what matters is whether the exhibit caused suffering to a living, feeling animal. If it does then it is unacceptable, whether you consider it "artistically valid", or not. Morality has to come above art, otherwise any sick and despicable behaviour can be justified as art, and the greatest artist in history could be argued to be Adolph Hitler! If you think that art justifies cruelty, then publish your address... and I'll come around and turn you into a work of art!

SO WHAT!?!?!?!?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 24, 2008 06:39 PM
I hope your next...seriously...

Art

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 07, 2008 10:40 PM
Pretentious clowns.

So WHAT? ARE YOU HIGH?

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 09, 2008 02:49 PM
Or are you insane? "Were they any good?" Are you blind, deaf and dumb to suffering and cruelty? Just the fact you can ask that or 'would' ask that proves how pointless some people are and goes right back to "psychotic narcissism".

Editorial Note

Posted by Poor Richard at Mar 11, 2008 03:42 PM

An Opportunity

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 17, 2008 07:58 PM
For those who may want to engage and/or take the artist to task, Adel Abdessemed will be present at his opening on Wednesday 19 March, 5:30 - 7:30. His public lecture follows at 7:30. Both events are at the San Francisco Art Institute, 800 Chestnut Street (at Jones), in North Beach. Hope to see you there.

lecture at sfai

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 20, 2008 12:25 AM
So what happened at 7:30 at SFAI tonight? What was the defense and the argument by the artist?

What is going on...

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
I cannot see what is the point with the murder of this dog..The murderer only wants attention so he can be famous...He should have done it to himself instead..He has no right to do this..an innocent animal cannot make any protest...but I do not understand howcome the people walking around do not do anything...they just act as if nothing happened...In my country we had several "artists" like this guy a few years ago..now people are more aware of what is art and murder!
I really hope this Costa Rican guy will come to my country so he can get jailed without food and water. I think he should try to get an insight into the true meaning of starvation!
Amazing that no one does anything to stop him....In Honduras this summer I hope someone will..

Encourages serial killers and violence in society

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 22, 2008 02:26 AM
It happens to be a fact in criminology that serial killers and other acts of violence against society started out with snuffing animals. Not only is this senseless and cruel to animals, children may see this and think it is okay to torture animals. They are, afterall, modeling what adults do.

A great anthropologist once said, "One of the most dangerous things that can happen to a child is to kill or torture an animal and get away with it," Margaret Meade, Anthorpologist.

Cruelty can never be art. Where does one draw the line? If a person beat up a child in an art gallery, is this art? Or torturing and killing another person-is this art? To Hitler it was.

This is a very sad reflection of our very sick and diseased world we live in that cruelty and SNUFF is called "art".

And the parents?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
You say that children imitate and model adults. So who are the most influential adults in a child's life? If your answer is "the artist bludgeoning a defenseless animal," then I feel sorry for you.

As for the cruelty to children, sure. It's harder because you're drawing a thin moral line, one that even I have a hard time dealing with, but it's interesting when you sit back and look at the reactions that things such as this get out of people. It's more like a scientific experiment.

Habacuc's was the most interesting, because people saw the dog and refused to feed him, simply because they read directions that said not to. If you look at it that way, does it really make you such a horrible person? What's one dog in the midst of an overpopulation of stray animals here in the United States?

bleh

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 22, 2008 02:26 AM
These exhibits are trash in my opinion. I would like to know how animal cruelty wasn't called on this one. Is it protected by freedom of speech or some garbage? What is the difference between killing an animal in the exhibit or outside of it? Anyone on the street would surely be arrested and fined for such an act. People are mammals too, so should we not have inalienable rights to life and liberty as well? Just for the records, sociopaths (typical serial killers) don't have feelings of guilt or remorse about killing either. Is it a good idea to let "artists" who have the same characterists just run amock?

art???

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 22, 2008 08:41 PM
I don't believe it is true ! But If this is true, then we really live in an oversick society!
How can something like that be accepted!??!! OMG! OMG! How I hate this idiots named humans !

animal cruelty

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 24, 2008 08:58 PM
I don't understand how they could get away with this!?!? How can this be allowed??!?! This is animal cruelty,it is not legal for them to do this!! It's sick. It's teaching children to harm animals and be cold and cruel. Sick sadistic Bastards!! A fate like this should happen to all involved!!

Guillermo "Habacuc" Vargas

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 25, 2008 04:57 PM

If I encountered Guillermo "Habacuc" Vargas, I would stab him in the chest, tie him up on skid row and leave him to see "if anyone cared".

No talent "artists"

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 26, 2008 10:55 PM
Being an artist myself, I find many exhibits labeled as "art" in recent years to be offensive and of no artistic value. "It is an expression of ..." nonsense. Last week someone parked their car too close to my fence, this ANNOYED me. If I went out and hammered the car with a bat, would that be art? Or would it just be a crime? It is an expression of my feelings, does that make it art?
If you have talent and want to make a statement and bring to light the plight of hundreds of starving dogs in your country, why not photograph, film, paint or in other ways represent those miserable creatures to display to the world. Would this not create a feeling in veiwers, would it not make a statement about world conditions?
As noted on this site, beyond these shock value "works", these "artists" rarely seem to produce anything impressive. (Not saying the shock works are impressive)

Well-subsidized "art"

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 27, 2008 03:21 PM
The most disgusting fact is that thit apalling "exibits" are subsidised by NEA : SFAI just received $40,000.00 grant from NEA for "promoting Art for Children and Youth".
The President of SFAI /which exibit that atrocity/ is John M.Sanger.
Tel: (415)693-9300 ofice
     (415)749-4549 gallery

Sanger$&Osborn
One Embarcadero Center
12th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94111-3617

or 3600, Washington St,
SF, CA 94118

morbid idiots

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 28, 2008 03:22 PM
sheeesh how totally messed up are we...

to be outraged is to be proven with a concience.

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 11, 2008 08:01 PM
the fact that so many are outraged and disgusted by these people's actions proves that there is some small hope for humankind...

still, if given the chance, i'd still impale them on 30 foot spikes, naked in front of the galleries that condoned their crimes.

it would be an art installation called "Pompous" "Dillitante" and "Hypocrite"

Anon & So What

Posted by Zaph Mann at Mar 28, 2008 03:22 PM
I think the extraordinary volume of hits this particular posting has had (approx 1 comment per many hundreds of reads) confirms the shared abhorrence of some of these exhibits, though I suspect our opinions might diverge sharply on other art evaluation.
Two notes:
1 Users who entered a name but show as "Anonymous" - this is a bug which will be fixed in time.
2. First respondent "So what" asked if the shows themselves were 'any good'. I can't speak to the San Franciso show as I haven't had sufficient exposure to it (only the video clippings) but to the other exhibitions I mentioned in my article: Certainly not good in any civil sense, and substandard in an art sense also: weak - like discarded ideas for advertisements which wouldn't hold up without the sensationalised element.

murder

Posted by Anonymous User at Mar 28, 2008 03:22 PM
If someone had cut the dog free during the show - THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ART.

re: murder

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
While I'm inclined to believe that the dog was not starved to death, and that the director is not lying to us when he said the dog was fed except for the three hours it was on display and then later escaped, even if that wasn't true, I would like to point out this fact: no one cut the dog free during the show. No one at the show got upset. If, in fact, the artist's intention was to tie up a dog and starve it to death to prove a point, he's made a rather interesting point. People don't care. People would rather stand by and watch than actually do anything. Could he have made such a point in a different way? Yes. Was that even his intention? No idea. But it is extremely interesting, and to do it any other way wouldn't have been quite as big an impact as actually starving a dog to death in full view of patrons and to have no one do anything at all.

a few comments

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 03, 2008 05:21 PM
Regarding Natividad: What I wonder is why animal control or the police weren't called, and why no one attempted to feed or free the dog. Was this exhibition somewhere outside the U.S.?

Regarding Abdessemed's video, I actually don't have a hard time believing this was a real farm slaughter based on what I've heard (I haven't seen it and I don't really want to)--they might have taken the animals outside of the slaughterhouse on Abdessemed's request, but otherwise hitting animals in the head is pretty normal in slaughter. Stunning animals by slamming them in the forehead with sledgehammers was common in the U.S. until the late '70s or early '80s--now they use a captive-bolt pistol than shoots a little metal bolt into the animal's brain. Neither process KILLS the animal. It is severely brain damaged and knocked unconscious, though, usually after just 1 blow. After stunning the animal's throat is cut, bleeding it out and killing it. It would not surprise me if in some countries outside the U.S. the sledgehammer method is still common, since a sledgehammer is a lot cheaper than a captive-bolt pistol.

It's still a pretty sick thing to want to watch, though. I can see having a video document the inside of a slaughterhouse for the purpose of saying "look at where your food comes from, understand the brutality that YOU cause every day by buying meat," but this is taken out of context by moving the animals out of a slaughterhouse environment. They might have been killed by similar methods anyway, it's true, and it's likely the carcass was used for meat along with the others--but it's uncomfortable because it's obvious that the guy arranged this and passively watched it happening in front of him.

Bloody Horrible

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 03, 2008 05:21 PM
How can this be called art!!!!!!!!
Its murder

Why is art invalid reason?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 07, 2008 03:49 PM
For me this work provokes an interesting thought. Abdessemed presents animal cruelty as a piece of art work. Most people are extremely offended by it. But I have to say that the work begs a question. Why are we so bothered by the fact someone killed the animals for the sake of art, but condone killing of the animals for the sake of food, skin or even fur? Why is art not a valid reason when food is? I realize that not everyone condones the killing, but I am certain that not many people have problem with killing a cow in order for you enjoy a piece of steak. Slaughtering animal for food became a norm due to the belief that biological need justifies it. However, we know that consumption of meat isn't required for our survival and there are substitutes for the nutrients from the meat. The fact that meat comes in red square wrapped in plastic makes even more difficult for us to realize that it used to be an animal. We came to believe that it is valid to do so. So we kill and we take advantage of animals, is that wrong? I think that's just the way we are. We are egotistical creatures and Abdessemed's work shows just that in a very brutal and in-your-face way. I personally do not favor such crude method of communication that he chose; however I do think that it deserves a thought beyond the issue of cruelty. Why is it okay for the sake or our body, not so for the sake of our mind?

Finally...

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 11, 2008 12:18 AM
...a calm voice of reason. This is not art for art's sake, let alone art for killing's sake. Abdessemed is a very sharp, political and talented video artist (and brilliant sculptor), who clearly thought this exhibition out to the tiniest detail. It's not like he didn't think about it, folks. He knew people would be up in arms about it, and Anon is right, he's asking some pretty important questions here--he's stripping away the ideological bullshit, while simultaneously mirroring society. People don't want to see the truth. Anyway, the next time you eat a steak, remember how you got all up in arms about this.

I honestly do feel a strong connection to this work, and I'm a vegetarian who would never kill an animal even to eat it. Somehow, I feel like Abdessemed is on our side, not against us. Try not to be reactionary for once, and you'll see.

You're completely missing the point.

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
When we kill animals for food, the animal doesn't suffer. They're knocked unconcious then bled. This poor animal had to sit there and starve to death. Completely different situations that cannot be compared.

I think you are missing the point.

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
I did not mention suffering since I do not believe that lack of suffering justifies any killing. It does not make it valid or permissible. Death is death no matter how painless it may be. Having said that, let me make it clear. What I am saying is that Abdessemed's work brings a question of our priorities. Killing animal for sake of food is result of our desire for physical satisfaction (with act of consumption of meat and fish) On the other hand; Abdessemed's killing for sake of art (as a mean to perceptual shift/questioning of established. Not simply bullshit art for the sake of art) is the result of his desire for intellectual satisfaction. Do we put our physical desire first or our intellectual desire first? Most people will put in on the physical desires. Why aren’t we so upset about the steak and sushi as we are with his work? Since most of see this as the first agenda on priority, we condone it greatly. But why do you condone physical desires, but restrict the desires of our minds? Is bringing about the ideas more important than our bodily desires? Everyone has different perspective and think differently of the issue, but we need to look and evaluate the works of Abdessemed with these questions, thoughts and concerns in our mind, instead of irrational shock reaction.

Have you ever tried breaking a chicken's neck?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
It's not easy. I wouldn't want to be a chicken on a chicken farm.

Animals for food

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
The animals killed for food suffer their entire lives, and a lot of the animals are still alive when they are left to bleeed to death. It's cruel and horrible and completely comparable.

Hoax !!!

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 08, 2008 01:12 PM
Hoax ! Search and you find (remember Bonsai Kitten!)

it may be a hoax or a gallery owner covering their ass

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 09, 2008 04:29 PM
FROM: http://luckybunnynyc.blogspot.com/[…]/starved-dog-as-art-update.html

The "artist"- Guilermo Habacuc Vargas, Galeria Codice & all those people at the exhibition did nothing and let a sick starving animal be tied up to a gallery wall as an exhibit- they deserve no kindness. They say the dog did not die and conveniently "escaped" the next day, but those people had a chance to help but did not. I would like to believe that one day all those complicit in this horrible exhibit will meet the same justice in their hour of need: chained up and sick- their misery & starvation displayed in the name of art with no help in sight.

I just received more information from the director of the gallery who has informed me that the dog had been fed regularly by the artist and the dog really did escape. I asked what they had intended to do after the exhibit and she said that she intended to take the dog to her farm.

I also asked this: didn’t any viewers protest & try to release the dog during the exhibit if they thought that the dog was really being starved to death?

Her reply: no one protested nor tried to release the dog. Most of the audience were young artists who surely assumed that the dog was not going to starve. Next day, when the dog was already gone, two or three young women artists came to offer to adopt the dog.

Do you believe her or not? Let me know what you think.

I feel some sense of relief from her response, but I still find the "art" inhumane.

go further down the rabbit hole...

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 11, 2008 08:01 PM
the title of this particular piece is "you are what you read"... is this true because it actually happened? or is this true because we READ that it happened? is the artist a bastard? or do we think he's a bastard because of what we've read about him? are the quotes attributed to him true? or are the quotes attributed to the gallery curator true?

remember the adage: "believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see".

go further down the rabbit hole...

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
Everyone being up in arms about this and all the conflicting reports swirling around just goes to show what a fascinating work of art this is. People long to find someone to blame for all the cruelty in the world, rarely taking responsibility for our apathy as a collective which co-creates this situation. When we buy clothes from high-street shops which exploit workers in developing countries, or pay our taxes to the british government which went into the war in Iraq and Afghanistan against the people's wishes, or eat dairy products that help support a brutal meat industry (and I do all three); then we are implicated in this fucked-up system. Let's stop looking for a bogey-man out there, and start looking at our own shadow, both individually and collectively.

I agree, but

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
sadly enough people only see the surface and get up in arms about it. Let's think people, beyond the obvious and for ourselves. We have the capacity to do so.

ART my ass!

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
this is bullcrap! (nice words) no matter what context it is excused..art or otherwise..it is cruelty to animals..they claim it was a stray and ONLY tied up for the 3 hrs. of the show..but did anyone consider taking it to a vet?! they may not have been able to save it but could have put it decently out of it's misery..but it is ok because not even the onlookers did anything to help it...bullcrap!if they could get a rope on it to display it as "ART" then they had the oppertunity to get it to a vet!

hypocrisy

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
"...put it decently out of its misery"

You've just justified death in name of decency. I see no difference with justification of death in name of art.

Research rules...

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM
...because you can find out that Natividad didn't even starve to death.
But feel free to jump on the bandwagon of bitching about it instead of deciding for yourself
(all the while proving the artists point that a "starving" dog in a gallery matters but most don't give two fucks about one on the street)
This artist is a genuis.

Agree

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
Completely agree. Why do people fail to see that his expression mirrors our brutal reality?

I agree

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 11:46 PM
Exactly... the POINT of the art wasn't to be "beautiful" or "inspiring" like most people think art has to be, the point of the exhibit was to show something horrible and allow people to see other people's reaction to it. I think the artist may have hoped that someone would have cared enough about the dog to release it, it is more shocking to me that no one did anything about it, they just walked by and looked at it.

People Do Dumb Shit For Attention

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
Well, I say if you're going to display an animal starving to death or whatever, go get off your lazy ass and paint a picture instead of putting a dog through misery. I think it's cruel to be using an animal for art with torture, especially that you don't know that if the dog even actually volunteered for this crap (and I totally doubt it did want to be part of this). Yeah, and I'm sure some will say something about animals not being volunteers to be made as hats or whatever, but please do not torture an animal for art or any reason. Don't even torture it before eating it. Oh, and I think this "artist" should have starved himself and get himself tied in display instead of just putting a random dog from the streets in display trying to get some fame, or people trying to nag at you. Well, if the guy was trying to have people all pissed to the point of petitions and shit against what he did, he succeeded didn't he? It seems so. Maybe we may not understand his "artistic" ways, but to me, I think he's just trying to get some attention and succeeded to get it. It's not a very good attention neither. As I said before, he should be the one starving and being displayed in the gallery.

Cruelty against life is NOT art

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
ANY form of cruelty against a living being, is NOT art. Unless it would also be enjoyed to see children tied up for the sake of art. We should be progressing, not regressing. And, I see not one bit of creativity in this so called artist...being an artist myself, art is not about hurting a living being just to get your name in the news...it is about creating. Cruelty is not creative.

ANIMAL TORTURE AND OR DEATH IS NOT ART! IT IS MURDER!!

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
I will resort to ANY & EVERY MEANS TO STOP THESE HORRIBLE, WICKED, and UNEXCUSABLE EVIL humans, who partake in this TORTURE and MURDER!!!!!!
Those who think these stories are FAKE, are either one of these wicked people, and or those who find EXCUSES TO TOLERATE such EVIL. In my eyes, you are just as GUILTY as those doing the ACTUAL DEEDS!!!!!
If these acts were being performed on fellow humans, would you still find ways to justify it???

Someone help these sick people

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
these are not artists, they are immoral, demented, derranged, depraved monsters. they are not humane, they are pathetic excuse for humane exsistance, and no one dared save this poor creature, where is God when an entire room of people can act this nonchalant about suffering and degredation of an innocent creature. they have no right to even be acknowledged,they should all be prosecuted on charges of immorality.

We need to prosecute criminals, not art, especially not degenerate art.

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
I totally agree with the sentiments against Guillermo Vargas' piece. It's little more than an inhumane, ignorant, cruel, and selfish cheap shot. I can think of a million other ways he could have said the same thing. Mr. Vargas could do us all a favor and read a little about a guy named Gandhi. I find the whole situation terrible and making itself into a real bummer. Making matters all the worse, I wish the reaction would have been less emotional and reactive.

Ultimately, the petition to ban Guillermo from the Bienal Centroamericana is little more than a declaration that irrational public opinion (devoid of due process, largely based on unverified editorial reports, and an array of exaggerations and rumors) has the right to define acceptable morality in art/artists, and thereby censor it's offenders. Please consider the possibility of signing that petition, or encouraging others to, as a big step down dangerous and slippery slope. I can't help but look back and shudder at what happened as a result of the whole Andres Serrano/Mapplethorpe/NEA fiasco; art was criminalized by personal public opinion and grants were cut by millions and millions of dollars. We need to prosecute criminals, not art, especially not degenerate art. The problem is a legal, not moral issue. Both in the US and abroad, proper law enforcement, truly humane laws concerning animal rights/cruelty, lack of adequate public services providing care stray animals, and the legal definition of animals as little more than property (with a value equal to their purchase price), created that dog, in that gallery. Vargas' seemingly amoral judgement is a symptom of primitive or non-existant law. If the story is true, what is the real crime? It wasn't a punishable criminal offense for the artist/gallery to treat that animal in such a way. It shouldn't have been an option.

His actions, while in completely poor and regrettable judgment, appear to be within the legal boundaries of his government. As it stands, it's merely offensive. If murdering starving orphan kids were legal in Nicaragua, and an artist found a poignant social metaphor in placing the head of a small orphan child on a stake in the middle of a gallery, wouldn't the appropriate response be to put pressure on Nicaraguan government to outlaw murder of starving orphan kids? Wouldn't anyone feel compelled to start an organization dedicated feed and clothe and house and educate these kids?
 
Also please remember, it is alleged animal abuse. Since when do people go on trial via the internet? Since when do we strip people of their right to due process because someone forwarded us an email, created by anonymous sources, or linked to a blog with editorial content? We must equally consider the consequence of our actions/reactions.

Did you see the bit artinfo.com had to say about him:

"Over 1.5 million people have signed a petition calling for Costa Rican artist Guillermo "Habacuc" Vargas not to be included in this year's Bienal Centroamericana Honduras, the Guardian reports. The outrage comes after an exhibition last year at the Codice Gallery in Nicaragua, where Vargas leashed a stray dog named Natividad in the gallery without food or water as part of his work. He also wrote the words "Eres Lo Que Lees" (You Are What You Read) in dog biscuits for the piece, while playing the Sandinista anthem backwards and setting 175 pieces of crack cocaine alight in a giant incense burner."

Agreed, I can't stand it either. It sounds like the only thing he's missing free hand-jobs from slave child prostitutes in the back room. But also, 1.5 million speaking out, making their voices heard. That's incredible and inspiring. Now, with any luck those same 1.5 million people will be moved enough to write the government of Nicaragua, urging generation of legislation protecting animals from these abuses, or help what is also an economic issue by organizing fundraisers to neuter stray animals, provide proper care, etc. I urge anyone who signed the petition to please be more than just offended.

And, while we're on the subject of live animals in art, I think Banksey is a douche, and wonder why nobody signed any petitions protesting "Barely Legal".

These links are pics from the September, 2006 show we had here in Los Angeles. I find this piece equally outrageous. Hoards of civilized people gawked, laughed, took pictures of a remarkably sensitive and intelligent creature, then they bought the art and the books and the posters.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/true2death/252870011/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/true2death/252614489/

Also see:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/3077217.stm

All domesticated and captive animals are part of our collective inherited responsibility. For thousands of years we've depended on them for survival. In many cases, we've permanently altered their genetics to better serve man, and/or eliminated their habitats and natural ability to survive. Through "selective breeding" we've rendered animals like the dog an utterly dependent creature, unfortunate for dogs however, over the past 100 years or so, the "jobs" of most have all but been eliminated. While their functions and value have changed, their value to the humans species remains. Like children, domesticated and captive animals are a personal and public responsibility, please offer the same conscientious protection from undeserved iniquity.

D. Jackson

Death for no reason IS MURDER!!!

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 01:17 AM
Would you tie an unwanted human baby to a rope and watch it die? No i didnt think so... why should and animal be of any difference? Since when did you decide who dies or who lives? Dispicable piece of $H*T!!!!!

monet

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 09:52 AM
what's wrong with just picking up a paint brush ?

art

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 15, 2008 09:52 AM
I am an artist working with the animal death... but very different in that I have been working with a shelter in TN and have been taking photos of animals who were to be euthanized to make art to commemorate them. It is has been a difficult project, but it was not until I saw the actual deaths of 9 dogs one day did I truly feel how horrible it truly is. As an artist, I can see how art must be made to speak about the sufferings of animals at the hands of people - however, I would NEVER cause an animal suffering - there is far to much going on already - one only need to step foot in their local shelter and they will be overwhelmed with the reality. As part of my work at the shelter I have worked countless hours in helping clean cages, feed cats and dogs, medicate animals - including giving IV fluids to parvo stricken puppies.. as well as help with a rolling rescue program through the shelter to take dogs from the high kill shelter to no kills - I helped drive over 30 dogs and puppies to safety in New York. It is a difficult subject to deal with suffering of any kind- but as an artist - we must not contribute to or cause suffering. Wether the dog died in the gallery or not - it was severly malnourished and needed help - when he took the dog in his care, he took the responsibility in his hands. I do not think to cause animals to suffer in the name of art is at all funny - I have a hard time with my own project, I want to save them all ... but their deaths are happening wether I am there or not.. Please visit my blog at http://www.projectfifty-two.blogspot.com it is very much still in process....

Hostel?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 16, 2008 01:20 PM
Anyone seen the movie hostel? the people who ran the torture organization describes their clients as 'murder loving artists'. This is very reminiscent of that.

WRONG

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 16, 2008 02:00 PM
The previous comment about these being valid expressions of art is idiotic. If simply offering a rationale is adequate to garner someone a green light to commit abuse then the world in general and art specifically are one step from over. May the writer of that comment be mistreated inhumanely as an expression of any ole thing that someone else someday states is valid. They will learn how stupid their perspective is then. (May animal-abusing asshole posers calling themselves 'artists' be on the recieving end of the same also!)

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
ART EXPRESSIONS MY ASS. I am an art major and this isn't fucking art. This is animal abuse and you're sickening. How about we tie you up and let you starve to death? Do you consider that art?

just because you don't like it

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
doesn't mean it isn't art.

i personally don't think this was so much of a great piece of art, as one that sparked a huge amount of debate, and just because people are able to read into it more than is strictly intended doesn't make it genius.

the whole issue of animal cruelty is a minefield, and i won't get into it here, because really all it boils down to is your own personal opinion. you could justify anything if you wanted.
personally, i'm glad this guy is at least trying to do something intellectual.

all i'll say is, there seems to be a whole lot more ignorant ranting and raving against the a alleged animal cruelty, whereas people justifying it as art seem to be a lot more calm and rationalised.
i doubt anyone will agree with me, but when you get emotional you don't see sense, you certainly don't think straight and ultimately, if it gets out of hand, you'll end up doing something you regret.

there's been a whole lot of death threats against this guy, can you really justify killing him? If he really did kill the dog, then you're just lowering yourself to his level.
'An eye for an eye' certainly gets support because people want revenge for this affront to their view of what is right and what is wrong. but imposing your views on someone else is only one step away from fascism. say hey to your buddy adolf.

For those who thing this is art......

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
You guys are some twisted muthafuckas, you can eat a dick and die broke punk bitches. Guillermo Vargas Habacuc has a one way ticket to hell. FUCK ALL OF YOU WHO THINK THIS IS RIGHT. BEOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYTCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH

Vargas is innocent

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 17, 2008 09:21 PM
The director of the gallery AND the Humane Society both stated that the dog was only tied up for the 3 hours of the exhibition, routinely given food and water, and then let free afterwards. The internet sure can stir up some bullshit when there are little facts to begin with.

Also, is it really that disturbing that people are in the background sipping drinks, eating food, enjoying themselves? Most people who see tied up dogs assume they have an owner, and assume that they are being fed by their owner. Yes, there was a sign (supposedly) that informed viewers to not feed the dog, but so what? I don't want randoms feeding my dog either.

so the dog didn't die

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
show, regardless to the truth that undoubtedly someone of those individuals is not for letting animals suffer and die.

when it is all said and done, the issue is about the viewer or specifically you: in your personal or cultural or societal moral and ethical beliefs, how active or how passive are you? think about what you think you believe in and believe in strongly. then recognize how little or how much you have actually done to make what you feel and say reality by acting or have you fallen short of ever really DOING anything by only thinking and talking.

Controversy Intended, Clarity Wanted (Habla Kook)

Posted by Anonymous User at Apr 22, 2008 01:31 AM
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